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Brainiac
12-14-2009, 03:02 PM
I figured we should finally move this to the proper new forum. The old thread can be locked or merged with this one in this forum.

So, Distant Worlds Chicago 2009. I had and excellent dead-center seat, despite being literally right in front of the projector (though once the orchestra got going, the drone was pretty much unnoticeable). The stuff that repeated from Baltimore was just as good and the new stuff was at least interesting if not epic/excellent. So without further ado, a few quick words on each piece:

First Half
Prelude: Always a good listen. It was a slightly lyrical version, but not one I recognized from any of the various vocal CDs.
Liberi Fatali: Do I really need to explain this piece?
Victory: The most compressed awesome ever performed by an orchestra. :D
To Zanarkand: Always a good listen, though some piano purists may not care for full orchestration.
Don't Be Afraid: Again, not much to explain.
Ronfaure: Same as above.
Memoro de la Ŝtono - Distant Worlds: Sung by Susan Calloway, just as on the CD album. Great to hear live.
Love Grows: Since there was no performance of Eyes on Me, this was a decent instrumental replacement.
Swing De Chocobo: Still no answer on whether Arnie Roth prefers wark or kweh.
Melodies of Life: I'll be honest here. Susan Calloway is not a good stand-in for Emiko Shiratori. It was still nice, but it just sounded wrong to me; More Friends was the better performance.
Fisherman's Horizon: Always fun to watch the Garden crash FMV.
J-E-N-O-V-A: This was an interesting arrangement. It started very quietly with bells but quickly became the bombastic piece we're all familiar with.

Second Half
Opening - Bombing Mission: Again, if you need a description, you're beyond my help.
Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII: See above.
Suteki da ne: Again, Susan Calloway is a poor substitute. She's a great singer, but her voice is nothing like Ritsuki Nakano's. The official English translation was interesting but also diminished my emotional connection to the piece since it was never translated before (unlike Melodies of Life).
Aerith's Theme: You seriously need an analysis of this?
Dancing Mad: Okay, here's the longest analysis I'll post. Basically, this arrangement was a lyrical "Dancing Mad" without the part that's an adaptation of "Kefka" and I'd say less than half of the organ solo. Still good, but the removed sections were gapingly noticeable to fans. It was even shorter than the non-Stockholm PLAY! version. Interestingly, the early parts were supplemented by the PSX FMV visuals while the middle was pretty much in-game visuals (including the greatness that is General Leo's Shock). The ending, however, was cutscenes from Dissidia. Overall, I'd call it good but unsatisfying, if that makes sense. I still don't know why they didn't try to do the whole thing with like the Stockholm PLAY! concert with The Chicago Mages, but considering how many songs they played, I guess I can understand it.
Kiss Me Good-Bye: Again, Susan Calloway stood in for the original vocalist (Angela Aki), but this time, it was a good fit (much like her vocals for FF11's Distant Worlds). I liked this one, and I heard Angela Aki perform this live at PLAY!'s premiere (also in Chicago, so Arnie Roth's statement about this being a premiere was wrong).
Theme of Love: Still as beautiful as ever, but the remake's "Tsuki no Akari" remains absent. Blasted copyright issues.
Man With The Machine Gun: Gotta love Laguna's battle music.
FF14 Medley: This consisted of two pieces - "Twilight Over Thanalan" and "Beneath Bloodied Borders." I think for this one I'll just let you all listen to it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIbqKXkMinI).
Terra's Theme: The standard finale for this concert series, complete with the introductory walking Magitek armor scene and credits just for Distant Worlds.

Encore
Advent: One-Winged Angel: Gee, what a shock. This was pretty much the same version as from More Friends, complete with slightly different lyrics. Still a good listen and I thought The Chicago Mages did a great job.
Victory: Just because Arnie Roth loves it. :D
Advent: One-Winged Angel: Just because once wasn't enough (and Uematsu got to goof around some more with The Chicago Mages).

As an additional note, if you haven't read about it online yet, Arnie Roth confirmed that when Distant Worlds heads back to Stockholm next year, they'll be releasing the Distant Worlds II album. The recording is supposed to commence late next month with the Royal Stockholm Philharmonic and the FF14 medley is said to be set for the album. The rest of the tracklist seems to be up in the air, going by Arnie Roth and Nobuo Uematsu's naming of possible pieces for the CD before the encore. Look for more details and update concert dates soon.

Songbird
12-14-2009, 07:16 PM
You could of done some shadow puppets being in front of the projector. :p

It's a shame that they didn't put in the full song of Dancing Mad; maybe if they had not of played OWA twice, they could of done so. No offense intended.

What I'm wondering is why they didn't play anything from FF13, but played FF14 instead?

It sounds like you had a great time Brainiac! Did anything else eventual happen during your trip?

Thanks for the input!

Myrph
12-14-2009, 07:34 PM
What I'm wondering is why they didn't play anything from FF13, but played FF14 instead?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but maybe because FF14's soundtrack is being completely scored by Nobuo Uematsu, and since he's a big part of the FF/SE concerts they were showcasing his return to the world of Final Fantasy. Plus with the release of FF13 imminent, people will be able to hear the score in the game anyway, and since is not Nobuo's music, won't be as good anyway!

Terraguy
12-14-2009, 09:37 PM
I have to agree with Myrph here, because FFXIII was composed entirely by Hamauzu (and Distant Worlds is an Uematsu show).

But that's really cool Brainiac. Damn, I wish they'd come to where I am.

Brainiac
12-15-2009, 01:13 PM
You could of done some shadow puppets being in front of the projector. :p

Believe me, I was tempted. As to Thirteen vs. Fourteen, Myrph and Terraguy are correct. You may notice that the perofrmed pieces from the PS2-era Final Fantasies, which were all multi-composer soundtracks, were only actually Uematsu compositions. As far as I know, Uematsu-san didn't even contribute a vocal theme to Thirteen (he was originally going to, but Hamauzu took on the duty after Uematsu was given Fourteen in its entirety).

Plus with the release of FF13 imminent, people will be able to hear the score in the game anyway, and since is not Nobuo's music, won't be as good anyway!

1. Thirteen is only imminent for Japan (the 17th); the rest of us have to wait until March 9th.

2. I disagree that a soundtrack without Uematsu-san won't be as good. I rather enjoyed Hitoshi Sakimoto's work on Twelve (even if Nobuo Uematsu did composed the vocal theme and several pieces were arrangements of old traditional pieces of the series, Uematsu-san's involvement was minimal at most).

Terraguy
12-15-2009, 08:10 PM
2. I disagree that a soundtrack without Uematsu-san won't be as good. I rather enjoyed Hitoshi Sakimoto's work on Twelve (even if Nobuo Uematsu did composed the vocal theme and several pieces were arrangements of old traditional pieces of the series, Uematsu-san's involvement was minimal at most).

I am quite sad that the long tradition of Uematsu having at least one piece in ever FF is now gone. I guess the only thing left over from the old days is Amano's title illustration. :p

Brainiac
04-25-2010, 12:14 AM
An interesting video was posted to the ffdistantworlds channel on YouTube yesterday. Here it is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1KgI7myUY). For a quick summary of what it is and what its description states...Uematsu-san has a new band, Earthbound Papas, that will be playing accompanying the orchestra for Dancing Mad on the new album. In addition, said album will be available through the Distant Worlds online store (http://store.ffdistantworlds.com/) for download on May 1st.

RetroVortex
04-26-2010, 09:28 AM
Oh god is it so depressing that FF XIV is going to be an MMO.

Especially now that I know Uematsu's doing the music for it! :,(

Terraguy
04-26-2010, 05:14 PM
Oh god is it so depressing that FF XIV is going to be an MMO.

Especially now that I know Uematsu's doing the music for it! :,(

Completely agree. I was very saddened by it too.

And congrats on the big 100 RetroVortex!

Brainiac
04-26-2010, 06:22 PM
On a certain level, I understand and support Square-Enix's decision to make FF14 an MMO. Consider the previous "trilogies" of FF games for each console generation. The middle titles (FF2, FF5, FF8) are typically considered inferior to the first and last titles on a console. By making the previous and current middle title an MMO (and thus, a different style of RPG), the company sidesteps this consistent problem. Also, Square-Enix said from the start of its formation that Final Fantasy would be the innovative franchise compared to the classic-styled Dragon Quest. As such, the online-based XI and XIV make a lot of sense.

Terraguy
04-26-2010, 06:29 PM
I guess you're right Brainiac. Since I'm not a fan of MMOs though, I just think it's a pity.

But that's my opinion.

Brainiac
04-26-2010, 06:40 PM
I guess you're right Brainiac. Since I'm not a fan of MMOs though, I just think it's a pity.

But that's my opinion.

And a perfectly valid one. I don't play MMOs myself either, so the fact that the entire soundtrack will be Uematsu's work is indeed a little saddening, but still, that's what OST imports are for! :D

Honestly, the only real shame as far as Uematsu-san and his involvement with FF is concerned is the loss of the single standing tradition of his involvement. Yes, Yoshitaka Amano still does the logo images for the FF titles, but FF9 was not one of his (and I do believe some of the Amano title logos for the very early FFs are only from ports/remakes - the NES ones in particular were originally just stylized text, though probably text designed by Amano).

Terraguy
04-26-2010, 07:37 PM
Honestly, the only real shame as far as Uematsu-san and his involvement with FF is concerned is the loss of the single standing tradition of his involvement.

Again, I agree (I said this half a year ago). :)

Boy, we're just agreeing on everything today, eh Brainiac?

Myrph
04-26-2010, 08:07 PM
Consider the previous "trilogies" of FF games for each console generation. The middle titles (FF2, FF5, FF8) are typically considered inferior to the first and last titles on a console.

Just to be pedantic, where does X-2 sit?

But to be honest, I'm not to fussed about it. So long as I get to enjoy Uematsu-san's musical stylings whilst playing the beta release (still haven't decided on whether I want to play it on the PS3 or the PC), I don't really mind. Unless I have to pay money to play the beta release, then I would be displeased...

Brainiac
04-26-2010, 08:19 PM
Just to be pedantic, where does X-2 sit?

It's either outside the standard trilogy for its console generation or the non-MMO replacement of FFXI for the PS2-era. Dealer's choice.

I suppose Versus XIII can be placed in the same position for the PS3 era even if it's more an action-RPG than a typical FF-style jRPG.